We are seeing in real time what it looks like to turn a democracy over to an oligarch, namely the unstable guy from South Africa who thinks he’s going to be emperor of the universe. It’s also very authoritarian to threaten members of congress with a job loss if they vote to provide hurricane relief or to rebuild part of the interstate highway system. Plus, the need for a pro-democracy media ecosystem, the difference between liberal and left, and the William McKinley era was terrible. Heather Cox Richardson joins Tim Miller.